Starmer and is crew appear to be set on taking away what we hold dear,free speech ,speaking our mind etc. He says that is no two tier policing,when I can clearly see with my own eyes that there is.
Agreed, Barry. I didn’t vote labour because they embrace ‘woke’ ideology & before long we’ll have CRT, DEI & intersectionality, like Kamala Harris. My constituency MP is a lib/dem which is even worse. Did you see Rowan Atkinson’s speech about free speech a few years ago? He encapsulated the whole problem very well.
I'm sick and tired of Islam being called a "race", when it's no more than a quasi-religious political ideology followed be people of many races. Will it now be illegal to criticise Communism, Fascism, Socialism, Catholicism, Buddhism, Paganism... ?
I am already finding it hard - people are really buying into the narrative of evil far right - then there was the hoax= from Hope not hate saying there would be 100 gatherings of far right and the so called counter protests with the Palestinian flags and screaming hatred it just feels awful Thankyou Barry helped me reflect
I've had to stop reading any newspapers and watching any media - even the alleged 'far right' ones because they all without fail keep repeating the 'far right' mantra without any thought.
I've also got yet another 24 hour ban from posting comments on Youtube, probably because I'm not very complimentary about a certain religious/ideological belief.
Hear, hear. Our culture, values and way of life are under attack from two sides. On one side, extreme islamism, on the other, woke activism, in particular the zealots of gender ideology. It is becoming increasingly difficult to speak out about the problems. Instead of standing up to the bullies, our leaders aid and abet them with ever increasing legislation which gags our speech, our ability to exchange ideas and consequently our thought processes. Each display of anger and frustration is a gift to authoritarians which they use as a Trojan Horse in order to bring in legislation to curtail our freedoms. Of course the riots are bad but instead of using the opportunity to look at the causes of the anger, the govt sees it as an opportunity to enable them to clamp down more and bring in state control. The Tories were incompetent but this lot are dangerous.
If we have bans on speaking out against islam then we're well on the way to blasphemy laws which support only one religion, and then we're well on the way to an islamic theocracy.
You're also buying into this 'far right' narrative.
Also Islam is closer to nazism than most people realise - they fully supported hitler during the war, and they have the same attitude to jews as hitler did. The grand mufti of Jerusalem was going to help carry out the final solution in the middle east if the nazis had won the last war.
100%agree with you Barry. Freedom of speech is of paramount importance. The Police are becoming too involved in the politics.
Their primary reason for being here is to keep law and order and arrest and prosecute wrong doers.
There can only be 1 set of rules in the UK which Ebrington muddy about by, no exceptions for race, colour, religion or belief. If people want to live in the UK they must accept and abide by the rules of the UK.
Good question Amanda. Will the population. ( or just the indigenous population) be prevented from criticising all religious & social movements? Learning only occurs through questioning & critical discussion. Starmer is treading a tenuously fine highwire.
Would it be impossible to make it illegal to attack and stir up hatred against any individuals/groups and at the same time not illegal to criticise their ideas? Taking the example of TRA's, saying things like 'decapitate Terfs' and 'punch a Terf in the face' ought in my opinion to be considered incitement to violence; but criticising our ideas - fine; get it out there. Say what you don't like and allow us to respond.
Two tier starmer, the champagne socialist and his drunk on power party, are a thundering disgrace to the Labour title, they are not Labour in the sense that the party was set up, they are a clique of charlatans, and corrupt elite, anti working class people. There are sh1tting on the working class and before I'm told that there is not a class system, that's bs. Anyone that draws a salary is working class, some of course like starmer and his ilk are overpaid and totally inept. As a government, labour did its best to pay lip service to the laws of this country, obfuscation of what it Intended to do and in their own corrupt heads cackled away at the easily swayed working class. They are ignoring the basic problem of lack of services due to the immigration problem. Their solution is to call anyone who puts their head over the parapet right wing, thugs, nazis, haters, instead of finding out exactly what the problem is. Any dog in the street can tell you that lack of housing, healthcare, jobs, etc, are due in a huge way to overpopulation of those who do not want to integrate, just overtake. Their solution is to shut up the questions, the criticism because they think it will go away. It won't, it will cement in and this government will be a one term Marxist, trans cultists, perversion of people's basic rights, the first of it is freedom of speech. Two tier starmer needs to understand that not even a couple of weeks in tbe job and he's effing it up royally. Rant over!!
Starmer and is crew appear to be set on taking away what we hold dear,free speech ,speaking our mind etc. He says that is no two tier policing,when I can clearly see with my own eyes that there is.
How I hate that man at the moment.
me too Pauline. it's bloody frightening how authoritarian the govt has become.
It's surely not a surprise to anyone though. A blind man on a galloping horse could have foreseen this happening.
Agreed, Barry. I didn’t vote labour because they embrace ‘woke’ ideology & before long we’ll have CRT, DEI & intersectionality, like Kamala Harris. My constituency MP is a lib/dem which is even worse. Did you see Rowan Atkinson’s speech about free speech a few years ago? He encapsulated the whole problem very well.
I'm sick and tired of Islam being called a "race", when it's no more than a quasi-religious political ideology followed be people of many races. Will it now be illegal to criticise Communism, Fascism, Socialism, Catholicism, Buddhism, Paganism... ?
I am already finding it hard - people are really buying into the narrative of evil far right - then there was the hoax= from Hope not hate saying there would be 100 gatherings of far right and the so called counter protests with the Palestinian flags and screaming hatred it just feels awful Thankyou Barry helped me reflect
I've had to stop reading any newspapers and watching any media - even the alleged 'far right' ones because they all without fail keep repeating the 'far right' mantra without any thought.
I've also got yet another 24 hour ban from posting comments on Youtube, probably because I'm not very complimentary about a certain religious/ideological belief.
Hear, hear. Our culture, values and way of life are under attack from two sides. On one side, extreme islamism, on the other, woke activism, in particular the zealots of gender ideology. It is becoming increasingly difficult to speak out about the problems. Instead of standing up to the bullies, our leaders aid and abet them with ever increasing legislation which gags our speech, our ability to exchange ideas and consequently our thought processes. Each display of anger and frustration is a gift to authoritarians which they use as a Trojan Horse in order to bring in legislation to curtail our freedoms. Of course the riots are bad but instead of using the opportunity to look at the causes of the anger, the govt sees it as an opportunity to enable them to clamp down more and bring in state control. The Tories were incompetent but this lot are dangerous.
If we have bans on speaking out against islam then we're well on the way to blasphemy laws which support only one religion, and then we're well on the way to an islamic theocracy.
You're also buying into this 'far right' narrative.
Also Islam is closer to nazism than most people realise - they fully supported hitler during the war, and they have the same attitude to jews as hitler did. The grand mufti of Jerusalem was going to help carry out the final solution in the middle east if the nazis had won the last war.
Terrifying times indeed!
Free speech is the bedrock of our society. Without it we have nothing.
We certainly have a difficult 5 years ahead of us.
By which time free speech will be a distant memory.
100%agree with you Barry. Freedom of speech is of paramount importance. The Police are becoming too involved in the politics.
Their primary reason for being here is to keep law and order and arrest and prosecute wrong doers.
There can only be 1 set of rules in the UK which Ebrington muddy about by, no exceptions for race, colour, religion or belief. If people want to live in the UK they must accept and abide by the rules of the UK.
Good question Amanda. Will the population. ( or just the indigenous population) be prevented from criticising all religious & social movements? Learning only occurs through questioning & critical discussion. Starmer is treading a tenuously fine highwire.
Would it be impossible to make it illegal to attack and stir up hatred against any individuals/groups and at the same time not illegal to criticise their ideas? Taking the example of TRA's, saying things like 'decapitate Terfs' and 'punch a Terf in the face' ought in my opinion to be considered incitement to violence; but criticising our ideas - fine; get it out there. Say what you don't like and allow us to respond.
Two tier starmer, the champagne socialist and his drunk on power party, are a thundering disgrace to the Labour title, they are not Labour in the sense that the party was set up, they are a clique of charlatans, and corrupt elite, anti working class people. There are sh1tting on the working class and before I'm told that there is not a class system, that's bs. Anyone that draws a salary is working class, some of course like starmer and his ilk are overpaid and totally inept. As a government, labour did its best to pay lip service to the laws of this country, obfuscation of what it Intended to do and in their own corrupt heads cackled away at the easily swayed working class. They are ignoring the basic problem of lack of services due to the immigration problem. Their solution is to call anyone who puts their head over the parapet right wing, thugs, nazis, haters, instead of finding out exactly what the problem is. Any dog in the street can tell you that lack of housing, healthcare, jobs, etc, are due in a huge way to overpopulation of those who do not want to integrate, just overtake. Their solution is to shut up the questions, the criticism because they think it will go away. It won't, it will cement in and this government will be a one term Marxist, trans cultists, perversion of people's basic rights, the first of it is freedom of speech. Two tier starmer needs to understand that not even a couple of weeks in tbe job and he's effing it up royally. Rant over!!